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I use a 380mah 6s LiHV battery and get around 4-5mins with it

@@GarethDix Thanks bro! That's what I'm talking about :P Have you tried Pavo25V2 or Pavo20 yet?

@Braincho I haven’t yet… I wanted to try the Pavo20 but I’m also conscious that I love the pico because it’s tiny so it just fits in my bag with everything else!

I didn’t for this one as I wanted to make sure MurdersFPV who did the original build got the credit and anything from the affiliate links for it… but I used the same components in my full build video recently of the 3.5 inch ua-cam.com/video/lPGT-tZh2Hw/v-deo.htmlsi=w3zRSie8dUxYCA-l The only difference is the O3 air unit lite and I’m using the 3.5inch version of the frame (it’s the same just longer arms)

@@GarethDix Thanks. Where to buy just the O3 unit except DJI official website?

@Braincho I’ve never Bought one from DJI directly, pretty much any FPV store will have them too. Depending on where you’re based the independent stores sometimes work out cheaper

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You’ll love it… the extra risk involved with flying for real keeps you on your toes but otherwise the flying is pretty much the same… the handset part is the set up and problem solving if it doesn’t fly straight away 😂

@@GarethDix hahahaha yeah I guess the stress will rise a little but I'm super excited for it and you give me a lot of confidence with this answer, one of the biggest doubts I have in my mind precisely that... how different will it feel when flying a real drone, but based on your experience it should be just great, of course I'm aware that even the best pilots still crash so... I know that I will sooner or later too so that also gives some relive though

@maurosk818 don’t worry after a few crashes you’ll realise that the quad can take it and you don’t worry about it as much! Good luck with the flight and if there any help you need just let me know

Since building this one I got hooked on it and have built way too many to use now. I’m still not an expert but I like figuring out how to make it all work as no Sub250g build is completely straight forward

I haven’t tried the baby ape2 yet a few people have mentioned it in the comments, I don’t think you could go wrong with either of them and the baby ape has replaceable arms.

Hahaha… probably not a fair test against those quads 😂

Unfortunately not. I’ve now transferred the whole thing to a Djinn F25 frame to see if it’s something to do with the frame but I’m almost certain it’s a problem with the DJI O3. But before you do anything drastic to fix it see if EMAX will help (or if they just tell you it was the wind) Flash bluejay onto the ESC and change the pwm frequency to 48khz - it’s set to 24khz which causes issues with the O3 (this has fixed the issue on some of my other quads). Make sure everything is tight on the frame… the camera the motors etc Failing that you’ll likely need to take the camera apart and check that it’s all tightened down… and then as others have suggested here in the comments add glue to the camera because if a lens issue. None of these have worked for me so far but as soon as we have some good weather I’ll test it out in the new frame and see if that’s helped… otherwise I’ll be getting a new O3

It’s a running joke in the community… I believe the avata is a great beginner quad because it just gets you in the air as quickly as possible which means it’s more likely you’ll go through the pain of learning the other aspects of FPV (aside from building, I still stand by my statement that I wouldn’t build straight away). The only issues with the avata 2 is that the motion controller being used in the video doesn’t work with any other FPV quads and the normal remote is expensive in comparison to other FPV radios. There’s the issue of sending it back to DJI for repair because in FPV it’s inevitable that you’ll crash and break something at some point. But honestly as a first quad I think it’s a pretty good intro into the hobby and you could do a lot worse… if you have the money go for it, you can always sell it on if you don’t like it.

Thank you so much! 😊

I saw LetsFlyRC's video yesterday and it looks like a beast! Although I'm most excited about the motors as there are sooooo few options for lightweight 1604's that can take a hit!

Thank you so much! 😊

I think for a first experience of FPV it must be amazing with the motion controller if you know nothing else. But in between laps I was freestyling each of the quads (I didn’t put it in the video) which is why by the end of it vag wanted the full manual controller. But yeah it’s not even close to the rush of a 5inch… slowly slowly catchy monkey… I’ll convert him eventually 😂 Freestyling the standard pico isn’t so easy as there no way of catching it at the end of a trick without getting on the throttle way way early… might have to change the motors and try 3s on it though

I’m working on it already 😉

@@GarethDix yesssssir! 😇

Would also be worth checking out this new video from MurdersFPV who has pretty much used the same components too… ua-cam.com/video/UWkiS1GjhBI/v-deo.htmlsi=fX493GvvxP_7tMUM

@@GarethDix oh yeah I’ve been writing along your vids and asked him Tipps. He is a very nice guy with fantastic knowledge and skills, I wanted to have an opinion from you as an semi beginner who isn’t as long in the hobby. I started pretty much at the same time you did with fpv, but I never built a drone. I started with an sub250g bnf from avant-quads or now avion rc. Now I’m preparing to build a quadmula siren f5 mini. Mby you remembering that I’m also living in Switzerland and it’s expensive as hell to get parts… oh yeah and btw I’m 15 so it’s the first hobby no one from my family can help me with, so I’m happy for advice because I don’t want to destroy anything for a dumb reason because I have a pretty tight budget…

@Nik_FPV621 no worries I have great video planned for it. But yeah FPV parts aren’t cheap… the F5 mini should last you awhile but there are also cheaper frames you can look at like the TBS Source one The F5 mini has a 20x20 stack mount rather than the normal 30x30 stack mount (the t-motor stack I used for my F5 won’t fit the mini frame). But honestly I would look at what you can get locally if budget is an issue as the import duty and shipping from anything you buy abroad makes it higher cost!

I learned on a cinerace20 so I probably have a more biased opinion of it… but it took a beating when I was learning and wasn’t so powerful that I couldn’t control it. The fly lens 85 by Flywoo might be a good option this and the BetaFPV Pavo pico are faster and more agile than the cinerace (unless they’ve updated the motors on the cinerace since I got one) Honestly though if you don’t mind the open prop design the crux35 is a cheap and really good option… it’s not the most durable though so you might have to change the frame at some point. But honestly whatever your first quad is you’ll love it no matter what and you’ll end up getting more eventually so don’t think too long about it

@@GarethDix thanks for your answer i will consider buying on of these drones that you suggested

Their production has been affected by the recent earthquakes in Taiwan but apparently they’re ramping back up again so it shouldn’t be long before they’re back in stock

Now that you mention it I can’t unsee that now!

@@GarethDix You see it too...right???

@artisfu9 yes completely!

That’s kind of amazing to break the motors before the frame… I swapped my frame out to a Discus frame by TorontoFPV… pretty easy switch over and has taken a beating. There’s even nice motor guards to protect those too! Not sure if there’s something similar available for the original crux35 frame but sounds like it would be worth printing

I’ll take a look, I know recursion labs but didn’t know he had a quad

That camera mount I use should work for any camera as it just angles in more for a smaller camera like the ant… however given its smaller than the runcam wasp I would look at some of the mounts Toronto FPV has made for analog cameras on the frame as they protect the lens much better as it sits within the standoffs

I just finished building a Djinn F25 it’s a similar size body to the siren F3/F35 so the components should fit… it’s a little tighter in places but you should be ok with smaller motors (1404) and a smaller capacitor which will save you some weight

These are the booties… they go between the motor and the frame and are bolted on. They do cover the motors which is great for added protection. But I wouldn’t go bigger than maybe a 1404. So far I haven’t broken a motor or arms using them so they’re done really well. But if you want arm bumpers that just slide on you could ask TorontoFPV to design some as he’s pretty accommodating to requests!

Sure… they’re called bootys which is maybe why you can’t find them but they’re right here and they’re really good! www.thingiverse.com/thing:6237914

@@GarethDix yea, I seen them don’t they cover the motors,? Am looking for something just for the Arms ? 🤔🙏

I tried so many things with the babyhawk O3 and couldn’t get rid of that jitter so I can’t recommend it… I’ve taken the insides of that and put it into the Quadmula Djinn25 frame to see if that fixes is but I ended up travelling a lot so haven’t had a chance to fly it more yet. But I know what you mean the O3 image is amazing, I’ve been testing whoops out with HDzero and analog but I wish DJI made a whoop sized unit! So I’m guessing you don’t want to try building your own quad? It’s probably the better way to get into the O3 freestyle at the moment but there are other BNF’s that have come on the market more recently. I haven’t flown these but wanted to try them out. The Five33 Tiny trainer now comes in O3 now too and is apparently amazing, the AOS3.5 is recommended a lot if you can find a BNF one. The list opens up more if you to the DJI vista version or O3 in 5inch is popular (I’d recommend the GEPRC Mark5) The other option would be to buy something that doesn’t have an O3 version and install it in there. It’s usually pretty simple. Your whoops thought you could upgrade the motors to a higher kv and then you’ll have that punch

@@GarethDix Thankyou for the detailed reply and the suggestions, yes I may have to build my own it seems. It would be nice if the likes of Gep RC sold something similar to their smart 35 but built for an 03 but without the 03 so I can add my own and make it cheaper. The mark 5 is defiantly on the Wishlist but for now I want to remain sub 250. I've seen so many people with the Babyhawk 03 with smooth footage I wonder if they're all like that and its just rocksteady that smooths it out? If I put higher kv motors on my Mobula 8 03 I would probably get like a minute of flight time, the analogue version is great though, really good, it's a super whoop. Thanks again and all the best.

@ltclungex6643 I’m pretty sure other people I’ve asked about the issue have said it hasn’t been a problem with theirs so it’s probably a QC issue. If you buy it from somewhere local it might be better because then you can return it or exchange it with them. I’m almost sure you could fit an O3 in the Smart35… a naked O3 would definitely fit in there. I’m guessing they get more sales in mini whoops with the O3 because it’s a bit safer and it won’t have props in view like a freestyle quad. I just picked up an Ummagawd 2Fiddy ready to build kit with an O3 so let’s see how that goes… it comes with everything you need to build it and looks fairly simple to put together. I also got a spare frame as I want to build a 3.5inch version of it as well to see how that flies too

Same size is not available… it also wouldn’t be an upgrade as there would be less travel

I’m getting around 4-5 mins on this build but I’m trying to find a 530 6s given I have 20g to play with

I’ve been getting 4-5mins but I definitely need a calibration on either my charger or betaflight as it never reads 4.35 when I start flying. I can do a comparison video, when I’m back home I’ll check the throttle position but I’ve been flying the Siren F5 for a little while so I can’t remember off the top of my head for the F35

@@GarethDix do you think it’s worth it building a 5 inch in switzland? I would have to go get out of the no flying zones around the airports… but I can fly a sub250g here at my house

@Nik_FPV621 it depends on how easy it is to get out of those zones for you. There’s a few near me now that are ok to fly as long as it’s below 120m but I get so much more time flying Sub250g because I can just go locally. The 5inch feeling though is amazing though… nothing quite compares to it but you just need a larger area to fly it

@@GarethDix oh yeah mby Winterthur means something to you and I can pretty easily get there. What compares more to the 5 inch the siren f3 oder the f35. I think I’ll get a 5 inch but I’m curious though because my plan is to build a sub 250g after the 5 inch so I want so know what feels similar and could be flown by my house

@Nik_FPV621 that’s something I plan on testing more when I get back… the 3inch feels more like a 5inch at the moment but I think that’s just because the 3.5inch is 20g lighter… with the additional weight I think it will feel more like a 5inch. If you want to build Sub250g for the 5in feeling then it’s worth going with the 5in first as a reference. If you’re not likely to fly 5in that often you could just go Sub250g and not worry about it ☺️

I did have a spare F3/F35 frame but started a build on it just before I left for the U.S. Apparently Quadmula are ramping up production again but everything is out of stock because of the earthquakes in Taiwan recently but shouldn’t be long before they’re back in stock

She loves being my spotter… at least when she’s doing the filming she doesn’t get as bored so quickly 😂

Take the time in the simulator… you’ll want to get out there as soon as possible but it’s really worth it! When you first start flying try and fly as often as possible to get your confidence up. Fly for fun but focus on one thing each session. It can be frustrating at first with the learning all the technical parts along with the flying but honestly it’s worth all the pain! And do consider a tiny whoop I always thought they were toy like and not serious quads but I’ve been loving flying them around over the winter and they make even the smallest areas feel like a huge playground

The DJI mini is pretty quiet… but I think that’s because it has a lower sound rather than lower volume. It’s possible though, it just depends on how you want it to fly and how you want to fly it… my Pavo pico is way quieter than the DJI mini… when you stand a few meters away you wouldn’t even notice it. My new 5inch build is pretty quiet if you’re flying it gently… but it screams as soon as you hit the throttle

@@GarethDix Do you think that Geprc Mark5 can be more silent than a dji mini if i am flying it slowly? I am willing to sacrifice battery if that helps.

@@EEEEMMMMKKKK a 5inch freestyle is probably not where I would go if quiet is the most important thing. you probably want something lightweight which will allow you to use smaller motors and get bi-bladed props... I'm thinking the Flywoo explorer, crux 3 or maybe even the 2fiddy if you used smaller motors on it (although it wouldn't feel like a 5inch freestyle) I'd test out my Mk5 vs the mini 3 but my friend just sold his last week. Why the need for really quiet though?

@@GarethDix Well not only it bothers me but also people start to look at the direction of the drone. The mini 3 has a pleasant for example air 2s is totaly annoying like bunch of hornets😊

@EEEEMMMMKKKK FPV drones tend to sound very different but they aren’t so quiet. But I would go with the Flywoo explorer or Crux 3 either of those should be quiet if you fly them slower… but the pitch of the sound is quite subjective

The AOS v5 frames have the arms a little further back in the body like a true X does which is probably how they get the props out of view by squashing the x. It does look like the AOS frames use a lot of the weight in the body for frame rather than the arms so hopefully that’s added protection for the expensive bits! I run larger batteries on my other Sub250g quads when I’m out of the city but then I just built a new 5inch which I tend to pick up when I know I’m going to the middle of nowhere

They had a huge earthquake in Taiwan recently so they’re now ramping up production again so hopefully soon they’ll be back in stock!

The standoffs shouldn’t be in view unless you’re running a very high camera angle. The props are in view on most x-frames used for freestyle… it’s not a cinematic drone. But you could go with the Djinn F25 which solves both of those because of the frame design. I’m sure they’re working on larger versions of that frame but it would likely end up almost being like a H-frame

Ahh now it all makes sense! I thought people saw how you fly these and there was a mad rush and they sold out! I got to take my Siren F5 build out at the weekend and now I see why you love it!

Why tho?

I run 4s when I flying around the neighborhood since it’s pretty tight and don’t want to go as fast. The power loss is noticeable for sure.

I have only done a short test of my djinn build so far… but can’t wait to see how they compare

It’s now raining like a mofo here again 😂 but I can’t wait to get it out there again

That’s exactly what I was thinking, however the 550mah is slightly too heavy but I’m trying to find a GNB 530mah as that looks like it’ll be just under 250g just not as available where I am 😩

​​@@GarethDixtake off the tpu protection and buy some titanium screws. More powerful Battery is worth more 😅

Qctiscrew sells them cheap

@chrisbee5481 I have titanium screws in the build already the TPU total (it’s lightweight) comes to about 2g. But maybe I’ll fly it over 250g out of the city and see how it feels